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Erosion of liberties day by day.



 Added by  Keith
 18 Mar 2011, 6:52 PM


With all the aggressive testing regimes now surrounding Bovine TB 'zero tolerance,' 'unquestioned rights of entry,' imprisonment for failure to comply etc., I'm becoming really concerned that the general population is suffering from an erosion of public liberties with each passing day and it is the sheer scale of complacency / lethargy of the electorate is what is allowing government to usher-in micro-laws that frankly would not stand up to scrutiny if they were taken before a human rights commission.
 
Here's an example; The recent 'so called' vote for more powers for the welsh assembly government failed to inspire any real interest despite a massive (and questionable) propaganda campaign by the assembly.
 
Whilst the assembly claim that voters have overwhelming backed new powers for their Assembly by almost two to one in a referendum. What they forgot to speak so loudly about was the fact that the turnout was pitifully low at just 35 per cent, leading to critics questioning the Welsh Assembly's mandate to have new powers.
 
So if we were to re-examine the figures from the more accurate assumption that those who did not bother to vote were not interested in Wales receiving more devolved powers (we should assume this because the assembly tells us that national pride is at stake here) then we could conclude that of a population of 2.26 million voters living in Wales then we perhaps should assume that a minority actually wanted 39% more devolved powers. Are we being shammed by those in power who are cherry-picking statistics to suit their cause.

DaveB
Keith. You rant on about the Welsh Assembly Government failing to inspire voters to turn out for the referendum vote and use assumption to conclude yur own preferred outcome but what can WAG do short of forcing the voters to turn out to vote?
 
Do you think it should have been compulsory then?
 
Keith
Perhaps Britain wants rid of Wales rather than the other way round?
 
David Bevan, of Ukip, claimed the "extremely low turnout" gave no mandate for historic changes to take place in the principality.
As Ukip's lead candidate for South West Wales at this May's Welsh Assembly elections, he claims he is fighting to keep the UK intact. "This was a pathetic turnout," he added.
 
http://news.scotsman.com/politics/Welsh-vote-21-to-allow.6728763.jp
 
Keith
In the few years that the Assembly has existed we have seen little more than poor performance. Someone said to me yesterday that this referendum 'Yes' vote that has given more power to the Assembly will actually make them more accountable to the electorate. I sincerely hope so because but since they came into existence i have only witnessed less accountability and a distinctly different, more arrogant attitude to the general public.
 
Take the forthcoming badger cull for instance. Elin Jones wasted everyone's time with her recent consultation because she has chosen to ignore the results of that which was a resunding 'don't do it'.
 
Keith
Now if the Welsh Assembly went back to the voter with the truth. Follow this path too far and we will no longer have representation in the UK parliament. I bet they would get a turnout then! And a very different result.
 
Keith
Interestingly Wales, not content with its blinkered march towards freedom from the United Kingdom still seems as keen as mustard to have plenty of representation at Westminster!
 
Isn't this a bit two-faced?
This extract from politics.co.uk:
Labour appears to have been thrown into turmoil by the announcement, which mixed policies they campaigned on at the election with a more radical attempt to reduce the number of MPs in the Commons, equalise constituency sizes, get rules on 'no confidence' motions on the statute book and introduce an ability for parliament to dissolve parliament.
 
The coalition backed down on its original plan for a 55% bar for the dissolution threshold, announcing instead that two-thirds of MPs will be required to trigger a general election, a move Mr Straw branded "the first major U-turn of this government".
 
Labour were not the only protestors about the voting reform package. Plaid Cymru claimed Wales would lose up to ten Westminster parliamentary seats under the plans, which envisage there being 600, rather than 650, seats, all with about 75,000 electors.
With a voting population of around 2.26 million, Wales will have 30 seats under this new ruling, Plaid Cymru officials said. "Although the total number of seats cut will be less than eight per cent of the total, Wales will be losing a quarter of its seats while England loses just five per cent."
 
Plaid's parliamentary leader Elfyn Llwyd said.
"This is not a respect agenda that this Tory-Lib Dem coalition have for Wales, it is a contempt agenda."
 
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/legal-and-constitutional/labour-fumes-over-av-referendum-$21381235.htm

 

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